Mohammed Haneef : Terroist suspect or test of patience?
Excuse me for not agreeing with comments on this post “mentally unstable, socially crippled or simply excruciatingly lonely, then what he needs is a group of people who will offer him support.” to drive the point that Mohammed Haneef and Sabeel Ahmed , the doctor duo held for questioning in failed Glasgow & London bombings.
As Mohammed Asif Ali is released with out charge, let’s try to know more of Muhammed Haneef. & understand why I disagree :
1) His MBBS final-year statement of marks shows he scored a total of 1027 out of 1450 - more than 70 per cent. He had 326/400 in general medicine, 278/400 in surgery, 274/400 in obstetrics and gynaecology and 149/250 in paediatrics.
2) Mohammed Haneef is a shouldering responsibility of his family, a lone bread winner, supporting his widowed mother, wife and brother studying engineering. He fathered a baby girl on June 26th ,2007.
3) The hospital where he worked - rostered to general medicine and surgery - saw him as a “model citizen”, Queensland Premier Peter Beattie said.
4) The principal of Dr Ambedkar Medical College and Hospital, from where Haneef graduated and where he did his internship till late 2003, would agree.Remembering him as a “quiet and sensitive” boy, Dr B.R. Ramesh said: “He was conversant in both English and Kannada, and used to help others. It is hard to imagine him as part of any terrorist plot.”
5) In addition to this his manager Dr Brian Bell has this to say about Mohammed Haneef “He’s a fairly quiet doctor, very conscientious, and performed at a very high clinical standard and he is very well regarded by his colleagues and patients “
The Gold Coast Hospital (L); The Telesto Place Apartments on the Gold Coast where Haneef lived
Resources : Mangalore.com
Laura, 
little indian 6:02 am on July 6, 2007 Permalink |
I agree with you.
It shows a lack of understanding between
terrorism as a form of ‘unconventional warfare’
and psychopathic ‘acts of terror’
Many indians had sacrificed their lives
to fight the British for our independence.
I acknowledge them as freedom fighters,
the British called them terrorists.
Without knowing these individuals personally,
and to label these doctors as “mentally unstable,
socially crippled or simply excruciatingly lonely,” or
as a criminal, that itself is insane.
She forgets, this person is a criminal in her eyes,
but to others, he is a freedom fighter, or a martyr.
It doesn’t matter what the religion or nationality,
for if doctors are becoming suicide warriors, something has seriously gone wrong.
Till the world realises the reason why these youngsters are turning violent, there will never be a resolution to this circle of violence.
Nita 7:13 am on July 6, 2007 Permalink |
Thanks for coming to my blog but you have not quoted me right. Please check again. I am talking generally, about why people ( in general) can turn to crime and terrorism. You are perfectly in your rights to disagree with me (In fact love a healthy argument) but please do it in a general way (not about Haneef) as that is what I meant.
After you wrote this I checked my post again, but no, I have been very clear.
Thanks.
Nita 6:42 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink |
thanks for publishing my comment. But considering that I have said clearly that I HAVE NOT SAID what you claim I have said, I assumed you would remove my name from your post.
Your post is very good in itself. But I have been misquoted.
This person ‘your first commentator” has called my statements ‘insane’ so you see what I mean?
Ofcourse I agree that to talk about individuals without knowing them is stupid (not insane in my view) but I am afraid I am not stupid. So please remove my name from your post –
I shall not ask you again, but I think what I have asked is very fair.
It is up to you to do what you feel is right.
little indian 9:38 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink |
Hi,
After I read your blog, yesterday,
I followed the link to this lady’s blog.
What you had quoted initially was accurate.
I returned to your blog here to agree with you.
The words and text on her blog has been changed today.
khadaksingh 10:54 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink |
Nita, done deal, your name is removed.
Dear little Indian , I am with you when you say
“It shows a lack of understanding between
terrorism as a form of ‘unconventional warfare’
and psychopathic ‘acts of terror’ “.
And if Nita accepts that, she does not mean Dr. H is what she said & our interpretation of her post was wrong or if at all she has changed her post and made ammends, the purpose of this post is served.
Thanks again for your valuable comments
little indian 11:25 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink |
That is fair enough.
I am sure we shall meet again.
khadaksingh 2:15 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
Nita 11:47 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
That is a complete lie. I have not changed my text. Please stop this nonsense. I can send you a screen shot of my page which shows a lack of edits or why don’t you ask WORDPRESS. I
Nita 11:48 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
sorry I WAS SO MAD THAT I PRESSED THE WRONG KEY MY MISTAKE. BUT I AM AFRAID THIS MAN LITTLE INDIAN IS A LIAR. PLEASE STOP LYING MISTER. AND STOP HARASSING ME!!
Nita 11:51 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
I SHALL COMPLAIN TO WORDPRESS. THAT IS THE ONLY RECOURSE. PLEASE ASK THEM WHETHER I HAVE EDITED MY POST.
I HATE LIES AND I HATE LIARS.
Nita 11:55 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
THERE ARE ALSO OTHER WAYS TO FIND OUT WHAT MY ORIGINAL POST WAS LIKE. THOSE WHO ARE TECH SAVVY CAN FIND CACHED VERSONS. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANGE IN THE POST.
AND I REPEAT THIS COMMENTATOR IS A LIAR. IF HE ISN’T AND HE HAS MADE A GENUINE MISTAKE, I DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE OPOLOGY!!
Nita 12:39 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
I have sent you (Khadak Singh) four screen shots of my admn page to show that I have not updated this post of mine. You are welcome to publish them. One thing I will not tolerate and that is anyone accusing me of dishonesty. I shall give it back, word for word.
little indian 3:48 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
Ma’am, do complain to WordPress.
If they can prove that
1. no editing took place – or-
2. the original article wasn’t replaced with another with an edited timestamp,
I will apologise here in writing.
What is still evident on your post is your belief that ALL ‘terrorists’ are
“unemployed criminals” or
“mentally unstable,
socially crippled
or simply excruciatingly lonely”.
So you can call me a LIAR
as many times you wish, will not bother me.
Nita 3:59 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
Okay, I shall write to WordPress and ask them if they can give me whatever you call it, timestamp. I shall even send you a copy. I shall send them a link to this post as well.
And what I feel about terrorists in general I am not denying that. that is my personal opinion. Like I had mentioned earlier, anyone is welcome to argue with that. I am open to argument.
But you are still calling me a liar, and therefore I maintain that you are one. You are not bothered, but I am bothered because of the kind of person I am and will therefore write to WordPress.
Nita 4:01 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
Support is closed during the weekend but I shall see if can retrieve someone’s personal id from my mailbox.
little indian 4:13 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
Please read my texts carefully.
I had simply written that the text and words on your blog had been changed.
That does not allege lying.
It is ONLY YOU who is calling anyone a liar.
So the onus is on you to prove it.
I will wait for WordPress’s verdict.
Nita 4:20 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
I have sent the mail to support at wordpress, with a copy to both Khadak Singh and you Mr Little Indian.
If they don’t reply I shall write again, on monday. If they don’t reply, I write in the open wordpress forum for help in finding a solution to this, which is proving that I have not changed my post.
I don’t know why I am doing this, but I think its because the truth has to come out. And you, who go around accusing people of things without any proof will perhaps think twice before doing it.
little indian 4:24 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
Fair enough.
As I understand,
If you can prove I lied, I will apologise.
But if you cannot prove I lied, you will apologise for calling me a liar.
I will not write anything here, any further.
…another man’s freedom fighter? « “me no big chief… 4:58 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink |
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little indian 7:14 pm on July 8, 2007 Permalink |
Ma’am,
could you please stop harassing me with private emails?
Whatever you have to say, should be here, in the open, with all to read.
Nita 9:16 pm on July 8, 2007 Permalink |
Okay so here it is Mister whoever you are.
The only ‘private’ emails I sent you were ones with copies to Barry, the wordpress support person, and one to give you a link to the wordpress support forum.
You can publish them here if you want.
I hope you checked at the forum because I have a cached version of my post. I followed the instructions the person there told me. I will be emailing the copies to Khadak Singh, the owner of this blog .
And you can do what you wish.
I have proved my point.
Nita 9:38 pm on July 8, 2007 Permalink |
Thats done now. I have send the screen shots to Khadak Singh.
Or one can get the cached version of my page by going to this link:
http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=13064&page&replies=5
little indian 10:14 pm on July 8, 2007 Permalink |
Thats fair enough.
On my second reading of your blog, my impression was these lines in the third paragraph
had been inserted following the objection raised by Mr Singh.
I cannot argue against Google Cache.
As I have said I would, I apologise for stating the words and text on your blog had been changed.
Anyway, my mistaken comment does not change the fact that you still maintain in your blog that your ‘generalised opinion is that all terrorist are “unemployed criminals” or “mentally unstable,
socially crippled or simply excruciatingly lonely”, and in its ‘generality’ it obviously includes Dr Haneef.
Let the unbiased and unprejudiced readers decide on it.
I remember you now ma’am, you asked me to join the Indian Mutiny group, and left some stroppy comments on my site, when I refused.
I wish I had remembered before visiting your site. I shall not make that mistake again.
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Nita 7:59 am on July 9, 2007 Permalink |
As far as I remember you had accused me of something then too. My comments were perfectly normal. I had accepted graciously your refusal.
And in fact even now you are wrongly accusing me of something which is not true!
Looks like you love to engage people in all this stuff, but from now on I am going to follow the advise of the WordPress community and ignore you.
little indian 2:46 pm on July 9, 2007 Permalink |
Thank God,
I turned down your offer to join your Indian Mutiny group then.
You approached me with the offer, not the other way round. I refused to join for I disagreed with your policy of editing or censoring other peoples words. Those comments are still on my site.
On this issue, I do not know how Google cache works, so I chose not to argue against it.
Leaving aside the issue of changing texts,
it is still evidently clear on your post,
1. that your views about all terrorists are deeply prejudiced and totally lacks insight into their problems.
2. You quickly make ‘assumptions’ about other people without even knowing them, and can openly make damaging remarks .
You are forgetting, another independent bloggers had read your article and come to the same inference that I made and protested against it. He has not changed his stance, and still links his objections to your blog.
So do or say whatever you wish about me, it doesn’t bother me, I do not live my entire life in these blogs and with the “WordPress community”;
I have a life outside of here.
khadaksingh 6:35 pm on July 10, 2007 Permalink |
Excuse me for not intervening earlier as I prefer to be offline on weekends, this week was no exception either.
I assume both (Nita & Little Indian) are probloggers & do not expect my post to be a battleground to sort out difference.
Moreover let me make clear my disclaimer & comments policy :
1)This blog is intended to present my/our view on things happening around world.
2)This is no place to brew any controversy.
3)This blog is not intended to fight your personal battels.
4)This blog is not for accusations.
5)Every body has the right to propose/oppose/support/ctiricise any idea, though maintaining modesty.
6)No derogatory comments will be published charged against any individual, race, caste religion or national.
7) No derogatory or insulating comments will be published intended/charged against any individual, race, caste religion or national.
8)Comments posted on this blog by readers are there views and this blogger (Khadak Singh) should not be held responsible for comments posted by any reader/blogger.
(No more comments will be accepted on this post, further.
I shall soon update my comment policy. )
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ooooooo 2:22 pm on July 21, 2007 Permalink |
AFP r rly rly stpd ppl. vry stpd idt nonsns ppl. poor mr haneef is a scapegoat.
little indian 5:18 pm on August 9, 2007 Permalink |
Innocent until proven guilty!!
Glad that Dr Haneef has proved his innocence.
Should be a lesson for all those loud mouths, who jumps to conclusions based only on prejudices;
before all the facts have been revealed.
khadaksingh 6:16 am on August 11, 2007 Permalink |
You got it man!
Laura 7:11 am on August 13, 2007 Permalink |
Omg you are all so pathetic. Nita you are a total loser and its Apology not Opology.. You all obviously have nothing better to do then come on this wedsite and bag the absolute Shit out of each other. C’mon get a life and stop acting as if u know the stuff youa re talking about, you frusterate me and i don’t even know u
jack 7:13 am on October 18, 2007 Permalink |
Well i have to say i saw the whole progam on this haneef and they way he answered the questions is very suspect indeed in fact you could tell he was lying and tripped up many times ,add to that the official in india who knew him well described him as the most fanatical, and the leader of many protests , i personaly think he is guilty and even if he is not he is guilty of association with terroists ,giving them money,and phone ,any county has the right to get undesirable people out of the country including his mate who rushed home after being found to have falsified his documents ,better safe than sorry i say !!terroists are very good at lying its part of the game they play even when they are caught in the act they plead not guilty .this is not against anyone in particular the haneef just a country and its right to ship suspect people back to where they come from .