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  • Mohammed Haneef: Test of patience, really! 

    khadaksingh 11:19 pm on July 16, 2007 Permalink | Reply

    Haneef SupportAs Australian Federal Police was not able to prove any involvment in the acts of terror , detained Dr. Haneef for more than 10 days .As Dr.Haneef was brought him to the court on charge of being “reckless” as his SIM was used by Kafeel Ahmed, the perpetrator of Glasgow bombings, could not provide any face saving grace.

    Dr.Haneef , first detainee under Australia’s 2004 anti-terrorism act, was released after a $10,000 bail which was accepted.

    However, the wait for him to reach India to meet his mom,wife and new born daughter ,seems to be getting more longer as his visa has been cancelled and is moved to immigration detention center.

    Hoping Government of India, intervenes and helps Haneef’s family at this tough moment

    While civil activists are protesting his detention, it is a Test of patience, really! L

     
    • Dave Bath 12:57 pm on July 17, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      (1) Your tag should mention Australia rather than Britain
      (2) Thanks for keeping non-English speakers aware of this, and the lack of human rights over here in Oz
      (3) It’s not only the government being cavalier with democratic principles, you ought to see how the Murdoch press is representing him (see my summary which has a photo gallery

    • khadaksingh 5:16 pm on July 17, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Dave, thanks for stopping by!
      1) I have added the tag for Australia.
      2)Trying to do my bit.
      3)Government, press and large corporations-Axis of Evil?

    • amla from adelaide 7:00 pm on July 25, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Nita and others on this blog!
      I was looking for more stuff on haneef since i am close to the epicentre so to speak and was a bit disappointed to see the note of “he must have done” “what made him act like that” etc. which seems to assign guilt to him without benefit of doubt.

      I dont say he has done nothing, or otherwise for that matter, but it might be interesting for you to look at his initial interrogation by the Australian Federal Police here http://www.hindu.com/nic/0058/haneef.htm which IMO does not indicate any portrayal of “guilt”, and certainly not to the extent portrayed by the australian govt. and sensationalised by the media.

      Also, the thing which is rarely mentioned in the media, is that the SIM card in question was given by him (this seems at this point to be the ONLY thing linking him to the alledged accused, apart from distant relationship) to sabeel more than a year ago, when he was leaving the UK.

      Like I said, I would rather wait for further evidence before I make up my mind either way, but knwoing john howard, and the paranoia he loves to create as elections draw close, If i had to take a bet, I would probably say the only thing Haneef is guilty of is having the first name mohammed, being conveniently muslim, and trying to leave australia on a one way ticket instead of a return ticket ( and I can understand his situation since I have myself asked on at least 2 depressingly desperate occasions if my parents could send me a one way ticket as i was broke, out of a job and home sick).

      Fortunately for me, those offers were never actually actioned, and so here I am – possibly better off, but who knows??!!

  • Terrorist plot and the Terminaly Ill 

    khadaksingh 10:07 pm on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

    Glasgow bomber

    Most of the reports published since failed London & Glasgow bombings, have been absolutely absurd, few blatant lies, outright assumption and other few even ridiculous.

    To give all of us a good laugh, Bangalore police after not gaining a single clue for more than year and half, is now investigating if Kafeel was involved in attacks on IISc (Earlier it was suspected it was masterminded by LeT).

     

    According to me article written by Sanjay Suri (published by The News Today Bangladesh and Outlook India (July 16, 2007 now on stands) titled Terminal Illness is the most substantive & subtle description of failed bombings.

     

    Author takes into account situational evidences when he mentions “The Glasgow attempt was just as clumsy. Driving a jeep into a building in Glasgow was never in itself going to set off an explosion. When the driver later set fire to it, burning himself first, no damage was done at the airport that some builders cannot fix in a week. Again, a quite untrained move. But one that is both reassuring and worrying. Reassuring, because almost certainly no real terrorist group was behind these attempts. Worrying, because the attempt shows how commonly available material such as petrol and gas cylinders can be deployed to shake up a nation. And if tapped more effectively through a detonating device, to blow up bits of it as well.

     

    Sanjay explains the psyche of perpetrators “The one doctor against whom there’s a watertight case is Bilal Abdullah, the Iraqi in the jeep that crashed into the Glasgow airport building. More than the July 7 bombers who had talked of their anger over Iraq, he would have reason to be angry. Early reports suggest Abdullah graduated from a Baghdad medical college in 2004–a year after the invasion of Iraq led by the United States and Britain. He would have seen in that year the brutal face of the invasion, and like the rest of Iraq would have lost the dream of the invaders bringing to Iraq the sort of democracy and development they know back home. An associate of his has said in an interview to the BBC that Abdullah was “very angry about the West”, that he “actively cheered the deaths of British and American troops in Iraq“.

    The article would be incomplete without the expected backlash “And given the naming of Indians as suspects, their seeking a future in Britain’s health service could now become an unintended casualty. Read the complete article:

    The News Today Bangladesh

    Outlook India

     
  • Kafeel a terrorist, who else? 

    khadaksingh 10:38 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

    If one can believe that Kafeel a student of above average caliber can be a terrorist, then one can also buy my version of story:

    Kafeel was befriended by religious zealots, however he was averse to their intentions.

    The plot at London & Glasgow failed attempts are a façade and were planned to be a farce to create panic in public.

    Meanwhile Kafeels’ friend had planned for an attack.On that day Kafeel was driving van, not knowing what it contained. While he was driving, his companion forced him to drive it into airport and Kafeel would not agree to it. There was a scuffle and  vehicle rammed into the parking. His companion sets him into a ball of fire or may be someone else.

    Probably ,those reading this blog may have a better version of this story and others may call me insane.However knowing that; 

    >British Police detained Mohammed Abdul Kahar and Abul Koyair only to release them later.Kafeel

    >British Prime Minister, Tony Blair had lied to the parliament & was lamented for sexing up the dossier to convince to go to war with Iraq.

    >British Police had also detained 21 young British of subcontinent origin plotting for a large bombing, however it has not proved anything either.

    There are other reasons that make it hard to believe Kafeel could ever be a terrorist.

    >Kafeel Ahmed, scored 87% in his Mechanical Engineering degree.

    >He was reserved student,articulate best in debates and also took part in extra curricular activities while never neglecting his studies.

    >Kafeel was working on a project to improve the reading ability of visually impaired, as an expert in Computational Fluid Dynamics at Angila Technological University, Cambridge.

    >Kafeel was also part of a team of professors and faculty members, which produced annual research report of Cambridge and Chelmsford universities in the UK.

    God forbid, if Kafeel is really what media is reporting, there is something terribly wrong!

     
    • nitinrohidas 10:43 am on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      HEy man…it can be true also..u knw why i think so?

      Watch the movie “Khakhi”…the story of a muslim doctor being targeted and framed..and it can happen in real life too..

      i still keep my fingers crossed…

      Who knws the real truth?

    • khadaksingh 11:22 pm on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Nitin, you are right, we cannot jump to conclusions till the investigations are complete.

  • Mohammed Haneef : Terroist suspect or test of patience? 

    khadaksingh 2:23 am on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

    Mohammed Haneef

    Excuse me for not agreeing with comments on this post “mentally unstable, socially crippled or simply excruciatingly lonely, then what he needs is a group of people who will offer him support.” to drive the point that Mohammed Haneef and Sabeel Ahmed , the doctor duo held for questioning in failed Glasgow & London bombings.

    As Mohammed Asif Ali is released with out charge, let’s try to know more of Muhammed Haneef. & understand why I disagree  :

    1)      His MBBS final-year statement of marks shows he scored a total of 1027 out of 1450 - more than 70 per cent. He had 326/400 in general medicine, 278/400 in surgery, 274/400 in obstetrics and gynaecology and 149/250 in paediatrics.

    2)      Mohammed Haneef is a shouldering responsibility of his family, a lone bread winner, supporting his widowed mother, wife and brother studying engineering. He fathered a baby girl on June 26th ,2007.

     3)      The hospital where he worked - rostered to general medicine and surgery - saw him as a “model citizen”, Queensland Premier Peter Beattie said. 

    4)      The principal of Dr Ambedkar Medical College and Hospital, from where Haneef graduated and where he did his internship till late 2003, would agree.Remembering him as a “quiet and sensitive” boy, Dr B.R. Ramesh said: “He was conversant in both English and Kannada, and used to help others. It is hard to imagine him as part of any terrorist plot.”

     5)      In addition to this his manager Dr Brian Bell has this to say about Mohammed Haneef  “He’s a fairly quiet doctor, very conscientious, and performed at a very high clinical standard and he is very well regarded by his colleagues and patients “

    Teslo Palace 

     The Gold Coast Hospital (L); The Telesto Place Apartments on the Gold Coast where Haneef lived

     Resources : Mangalore.com

     

     
    • little indian 6:02 am on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I agree with you.
      It shows a lack of understanding between
      terrorism as a form of ‘unconventional warfare’
      and psychopathic ‘acts of terror’

      Many indians had sacrificed their lives
      to fight the British for our independence.
      I acknowledge them as freedom fighters,
      the British called them terrorists.

      Without knowing these individuals personally,
      and to label these doctors as “mentally unstable,
      socially crippled or simply excruciatingly lonely,” or
      as a criminal, that itself is insane.

      She forgets, this person is a criminal in her eyes,
      but to others, he is a freedom fighter, or a martyr.

      It doesn’t matter what the religion or nationality,
      for if doctors are becoming suicide warriors, something has seriously gone wrong.

      Till the world realises the reason why these youngsters are turning violent, there will never be a resolution to this circle of violence.

    • Nita 7:13 am on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for coming to my blog but you have not quoted me right. Please check again. I am talking generally, about why people ( in general) can turn to crime and terrorism. You are perfectly in your rights to disagree with me (In fact love a healthy argument) but please do it in a general way (not about Haneef) as that is what I meant.
      After you wrote this I checked my post again, but no, I have been very clear.
      Thanks. :)

    • Nita 6:42 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      thanks for publishing my comment. But considering that I have said clearly that I HAVE NOT SAID what you claim I have said, I assumed you would remove my name from your post.
      Your post is very good in itself. But I have been misquoted.
      This person ‘your first commentator” has called my statements ‘insane’ so you see what I mean?
      Ofcourse I agree that to talk about individuals without knowing them is stupid (not insane in my view) but I am afraid I am not stupid. So please remove my name from your post –
      I shall not ask you again, but I think what I have asked is very fair.
      It is up to you to do what you feel is right.

    • little indian 9:38 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Hi,
      After I read your blog, yesterday,
      I followed the link to this lady’s blog.
      What you had quoted initially was accurate.
      I returned to your blog here to agree with you.

      The words and text on her blog has been changed today.

    • khadaksingh 10:54 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Nita, done deal, your name is removed.

      Dear little Indian , I am with you when you say
      “It shows a lack of understanding between
      terrorism as a form of ‘unconventional warfare’
      and psychopathic ‘acts of terror’ “.

      And if Nita accepts that, she does not mean Dr. H is what she said & our interpretation of her post was wrong or if at all she has changed her post and made ammends, the purpose of this post is served.

      Thanks again for your valuable comments :)

    • little indian 11:25 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      That is fair enough.
      I am sure we shall meet again. :)

    • khadaksingh 2:15 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      :)

    • Nita 11:47 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      That is a complete lie. I have not changed my text. Please stop this nonsense. I can send you a screen shot of my page which shows a lack of edits or why don’t you ask WORDPRESS. I

    • Nita 11:48 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      sorry I WAS SO MAD THAT I PRESSED THE WRONG KEY MY MISTAKE. BUT I AM AFRAID THIS MAN LITTLE INDIAN IS A LIAR. PLEASE STOP LYING MISTER. AND STOP HARASSING ME!!

    • Nita 11:51 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I SHALL COMPLAIN TO WORDPRESS. THAT IS THE ONLY RECOURSE. PLEASE ASK THEM WHETHER I HAVE EDITED MY POST.
      I HATE LIES AND I HATE LIARS.

    • Nita 11:55 am on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      THERE ARE ALSO OTHER WAYS TO FIND OUT WHAT MY ORIGINAL POST WAS LIKE. THOSE WHO ARE TECH SAVVY CAN FIND CACHED VERSONS. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANGE IN THE POST.
      AND I REPEAT THIS COMMENTATOR IS A LIAR. IF HE ISN’T AND HE HAS MADE A GENUINE MISTAKE, I DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE OPOLOGY!!

    • Nita 12:39 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I have sent you (Khadak Singh) four screen shots of my admn page to show that I have not updated this post of mine. You are welcome to publish them. One thing I will not tolerate and that is anyone accusing me of dishonesty. I shall give it back, word for word.

    • little indian 3:48 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Ma’am, do complain to WordPress.

      If they can prove that
      1. no editing took place – or-
      2. the original article wasn’t replaced with another with an edited timestamp,
      I will apologise here in writing.

      What is still evident on your post is your belief that ALL ‘terrorists’ are
      “unemployed criminals” or
      “mentally unstable,
      socially crippled
      or simply excruciatingly lonely”.

      So you can call me a LIAR
      as many times you wish, will not bother me.

    • Nita 3:59 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Okay, I shall write to WordPress and ask them if they can give me whatever you call it, timestamp. I shall even send you a copy. I shall send them a link to this post as well.
      And what I feel about terrorists in general I am not denying that. that is my personal opinion. Like I had mentioned earlier, anyone is welcome to argue with that. I am open to argument.
      But you are still calling me a liar, and therefore I maintain that you are one. You are not bothered, but I am bothered because of the kind of person I am and will therefore write to WordPress.

    • Nita 4:01 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Support is closed during the weekend but I shall see if can retrieve someone’s personal id from my mailbox.

    • little indian 4:13 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Please read my texts carefully.

      I had simply written that the text and words on your blog had been changed.
      That does not allege lying.

      It is ONLY YOU who is calling anyone a liar.
      So the onus is on you to prove it.

      I will wait for WordPress’s verdict.

    • Nita 4:20 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I have sent the mail to support at wordpress, with a copy to both Khadak Singh and you Mr Little Indian.
      If they don’t reply I shall write again, on monday. If they don’t reply, I write in the open wordpress forum for help in finding a solution to this, which is proving that I have not changed my post.
      I don’t know why I am doing this, but I think its because the truth has to come out. And you, who go around accusing people of things without any proof will perhaps think twice before doing it.

    • little indian 4:24 pm on July 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Fair enough.
      As I understand,
      If you can prove I lied, I will apologise.
      But if you cannot prove I lied, you will apologise for calling me a liar.

      I will not write anything here, any further.

    • little indian 7:14 pm on July 8, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Ma’am,
      could you please stop harassing me with private emails?

      Whatever you have to say, should be here, in the open, with all to read.

    • Nita 9:16 pm on July 8, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Okay so here it is Mister whoever you are.
      The only ‘private’ emails I sent you were ones with copies to Barry, the wordpress support person, and one to give you a link to the wordpress support forum.
      You can publish them here if you want.
      I hope you checked at the forum because I have a cached version of my post. I followed the instructions the person there told me. I will be emailing the copies to Khadak Singh, the owner of this blog .
      And you can do what you wish.
      I have proved my point.

    • Nita 9:38 pm on July 8, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Thats done now. I have send the screen shots to Khadak Singh.
      Or one can get the cached version of my page by going to this link:
      http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=13064&page&replies=5

    • little indian 10:14 pm on July 8, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Thats fair enough.

      On my second reading of your blog, my impression was these lines in the third paragraph

      There are those who hope that these two Indian nationals are not involved and that the UK police has simply picked them up on suspicion, but if I were them, I wouldn’t count on it.

      had been inserted following the objection raised by Mr Singh.

      I cannot argue against Google Cache.
      As I have said I would, I apologise for stating the words and text on your blog had been changed.

      Anyway, my mistaken comment does not change the fact that you still maintain in your blog that your ‘generalised opinion is that all terrorist are “unemployed criminals” or “mentally unstable,
      socially crippled or simply excruciatingly lonely”, and in its ‘generality’ it obviously includes Dr Haneef.

      Let the unbiased and unprejudiced readers decide on it.

      I remember you now ma’am, you asked me to join the Indian Mutiny group, and left some stroppy comments on my site, when I refused.

      I wish I had remembered before visiting your site. I shall not make that mistake again.

    • Nita 7:59 am on July 9, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      As far as I remember you had accused me of something then too. My comments were perfectly normal. I had accepted graciously your refusal.
      And in fact even now you are wrongly accusing me of something which is not true!
      Looks like you love to engage people in all this stuff, but from now on I am going to follow the advise of the WordPress community and ignore you.

    • little indian 2:46 pm on July 9, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Thank God,
      I turned down your offer to join your Indian Mutiny group then.
      You approached me with the offer, not the other way round. I refused to join for I disagreed with your policy of editing or censoring other peoples words. Those comments are still on my site.

      On this issue, I do not know how Google cache works, so I chose not to argue against it.

      Leaving aside the issue of changing texts,
      it is still evidently clear on your post,
      1. that your views about all terrorists are deeply prejudiced and totally lacks insight into their problems.
      2. You quickly make ‘assumptions’ about other people without even knowing them, and can openly make damaging remarks .

      You are forgetting, another independent bloggers had read your article and come to the same inference that I made and protested against it. He has not changed his stance, and still links his objections to your blog.

      So do or say whatever you wish about me, it doesn’t bother me, I do not live my entire life in these blogs and with the “WordPress community”;
      I have a life outside of here.

    • khadaksingh 6:35 pm on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Excuse me for not intervening earlier as I prefer to be offline on weekends, this week was no exception either.

      I assume both (Nita & Little Indian) are probloggers & do not expect my post to be a battleground to sort out difference.
      Moreover let me make clear my disclaimer & comments policy :
      1)This blog is intended to present my/our view on things happening around world.
      2)This is no place to brew any controversy.
      3)This blog is not intended to fight your personal battels.
      4)This blog is not for accusations.
      5)Every body has the right to propose/oppose/support/ctiricise any idea, though maintaining modesty.
      6)No derogatory comments will be published charged against any individual, race, caste religion or national.
      7) No derogatory or insulating comments will be published intended/charged against any individual, race, caste religion or national.
      8)Comments posted on this blog by readers are there views and this blogger (Khadak Singh) should not be held responsible for comments posted by any reader/blogger.

      (No more comments will be accepted on this post, further.
      I shall soon update my comment policy. )

    • ooooooo 2:22 pm on July 21, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      AFP r rly rly stpd ppl. vry stpd idt nonsns ppl. poor mr haneef is a scapegoat.

    • little indian 5:18 pm on August 9, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Innocent until proven guilty!!

      Glad that Dr Haneef has proved his innocence.

      Should be a lesson for all those loud mouths, who jumps to conclusions based only on prejudices;
      before all the facts have been revealed.

    • khadaksingh 6:16 am on August 11, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      You got it man! :)

    • Laura 7:11 am on August 13, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Omg you are all so pathetic. Nita you are a total loser and its Apology not Opology.. You all obviously have nothing better to do then come on this wedsite and bag the absolute Shit out of each other. C’mon get a life and stop acting as if u know the stuff youa re talking about, you frusterate me and i don’t even know u

    • jack 7:13 am on October 18, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Well i have to say i saw the whole progam on this haneef and they way he answered the questions is very suspect indeed in fact you could tell he was lying and tripped up many times ,add to that the official in india who knew him well described him as the most fanatical, and the leader of many protests , i personaly think he is guilty and even if he is not he is guilty of association with terroists ,giving them money,and phone ,any county has the right to get undesirable people out of the country including his mate who rushed home after being found to have falsified his documents ,better safe than sorry i say !!terroists are very good at lying its part of the game they play even when they are caught in the act they plead not guilty .this is not against anyone in particular the haneef just a country and its right to ship suspect people back to where they come from .

  • Knighthood to Rushdie- A gimmick? 

    khadaksingh 8:20 pm on July 4, 2007 Permalink | Reply

    RushdieConferring knighthood to Rushdie, Indian born British author is a surprise, though one can expect that it will not reprieve Muslim anger.

    A celebrity himself , Rushdie at 60 is set to divorce his celebrity wife & model Padma Laxmi.

    Rushdie famous/infamous for his work The Satanic Verses is on the run from his home country since 1989, as Iran issued a fatwa to kill him. 

    While the Muslim world is protesting, failed attempts of bomb explosion in Glasgow and London come as a shock.

    However, as doctors of Asian origin are allegedly at the helm of conspiracy, could it be another shock and awe strategy?DoctorConsidering the fact that there are more than 1, 17,000, doctors in UK government’s National Health Scheme & UK’s preference to home grown European doctors, bomb attacks in Glasgow might be a well thought out plan.

    As British Association of Physicians of Indian Origin (BAPIO) is up against arms with UK Home Office who is not relenting to change the immigration and work permit policy for the Indian and Non- European Union doctors.

     

    July, set as the deadline for new immigration policy, Knighthood to Rushdie which of course is sufficient enough to welcome the ire of Muslim community and subsequent façade of failed suicide attempts can be reality!

     
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